Episode 2 outlines how global powers outsourced climate responsibilities to Indonesia. The idea was deceptively simple: the Global North would pay Indonesian villages to not deforest. But you need to know who owns the forest that's being protected so you can then pay them -- and that was the role assigned to OneMap.

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In this episode, you’ll hear from some folks you met in episode 1: journalist Bagja Hidayat, social scientist Micah Fisher, policy advocate Anne-Sophie Gindroz. Two new voices include political ecologist Irendra Radjawali and scholar Rini Astuti. Together with Madhuri, they dig deeper into the post-Suharto era in Indonesia, and the political conjuncture that created the perfect set of conditions for OneMap to emerge.

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